Vermont is where I grew up. I was born in Berlin, grew up in Randolph Center, went to VTC and then lived in Barre until I finally moved to Tucson. Why Tucson? Because I had family there and because I love the desert, but the big reason I left Vermont is because of Republicans.
In a previous article, I outlined why Republicans are fascists, with evidence to support that claim. Vermont Republicans take it to an extreme, and it's because they're a dying breed (thankfully). When you think of a backwards, inbred hick, you're probably thinking of a Vermont Republican: Caterpillar hat, ripped and dirty jeans, flannel shirt/vest, scraggly beard, beat-ass truck (always American) with guns/gun racks in the window, living in a run-down house with at least 2-3 brats, and the white trash townie mom standing there in her own ripped jeans/t-shirt, cig hanging off her lip, shouting about how the husband is such an asshole for drinkin' beer with the guys and huntin' all the time instead of at home, while country music blares in the background.
These are the people who I interacted with daily in small-town Vermont. Which is to say, most of the state, since the only "cities" of note are Burlington, Rutland, and Montpelier, and Rutland is pretty fucking run-down. The only real reason they vote for environmental initiatives (and not that often) is because they keep the wilderness as it is, so these yokels can go hunting and fishing, not out of any desire to preserve the environment.
The reason I'm bringing this up is because recently I read an article on the local TV station's facebook page about whether or not VT Senator Bernie Sanders should run for President.
Now we educated folk know it's too early to be talking about Presidential elections, when we have a midterm to win in a month, but it is what it is. I decided to read the comments on the page, and I was amazed at how many inbreds had internet access. The comments ranged from:
"Bernie Sanders has done nothing substantial for the Vermont people. I lived there all my life until now and it was always a struggle to get ahead.. I made good money but taxes and the cost of living is ridiculous and nothing will change there.. I see all my friends struggling too.. I had the sense to get out. I live in Florida now and couldn't be happier cost of living is cheaper.. houses are 3 times the house you can get in VT and property taxes are less then a third of what I paid in VT .. VT is beautiful and I will miss it for some things, but it's not worth the $.. it drives more and more people out every year.. I wonder why?? Bernie Sanders is all about giving away benefits and making sure people get what they feel they are untitled too but not willing to work for, but does nothing to lower the real costs that everyone else has to deal with. He's a extreme left socialist liberal and he would destroy the country. I don't know about anyone else but I don't want to live in a Socialist state!! You deserve what you earn not what the government decides to give you!! And oh yeah.. I would like to keep my guns thank you!"
to "lol,forward thinking,just come out and say your way is the only way.thats why liberals are ruining this state,they worry more about the yard next door than their own.you liberals are garbage as far as I can see,come work with me some day,pay my taxes and then run your mouth.our children are moving out of state,fact,our elderly are leaving,fact.I don't need the silver spoons,or pot heads,drug dealers and or bums telling my hardworking butt what to do.look at our states drug problems,not crack,heroin or meth.perscription drugs,or horrible dcf system or unemployment or the sad liberal judges letting the dregs of society walk.i don't tip beers back on the weekends,i don't take anything other than what I earn and want none of your hand outs.thats what liberals are always willing to do,that I will not,hold their hands out.ruin someone elses state!"
to "God NO! He is a bigger communist douchebag than oblowhole!! All talk, little action. I could hate him and at least not be called racist though!"
As you can clearly see, these people are stupid, deranged, and sociopathic. That last one was from a little white girl who is clearly a racist and clearly needs to finish school and be removed from her racist parents. Like begets like after all.
These comments really pissed me off in a different way, though. They all claim they get nothing from liberals, and yet are first in line with their hands out when they need help (like #2 claims WE do), and that if only they had Libertarian style anarcho-freedom, everything would be fixed. The amount of idiocy in that way of thinking is so colossal that it defies comprehension.
Republicans are the masters of projecting their own behaviors and faults onto others, and I have to believe that somewhere deep down, they know it's wrong, but they do it anyways to keep up appearances and not be labeled as a sympathizer by their hateful and bigoted compatriots. I know there's no evidence of that and that they're most likely just rotten to the core, but who knows, I could be surprised.
Regardless, the fact remains that these inbred mental defectives are the main reason why anyone leaves Vermont. I got so sick of interacting with them on a daily basis (I worked for an answering service and talking to these people literally made my brain hurt) that I developed a plan to leave and implemented it as quickly as possible. It was bad enough having to fight the snow and ice and mud and shit weather and lack of things to do, but dealing with those fascists daily was the proverbial straw, and the threats of violence to me and the ACTUAL damage to my car were just a few of the catalysts for my exodus.
My friends and family don't even know this either, mainly because I didn't want to worry them, but also because it didn't matter anymore. I'm out, I live in Tucson, a very liberal city, and I don't have to deal with ANY of that crap anymore. People see Vermont as very progressive, lots of hippies, etc., and it is, but there's the dark underside to the state that no one outside of the state knows about, because Vermonters are very insular. Republican inbred fascists rule the wilds of Vermont, and no amount of education is going to change that.
We just need to breed them out. I love Vermont, and I absolutely DETEST these scum. There is no redemption possible for these cavemen. Only obsolescence.
Let's make that happen, shall we?
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Saturday, October 11, 2014
Saturday, January 25, 2014
The US Media: purposefully lying to you since Reaganomics
It's very telling how the US mainstream media (owned by Rupert Murdoch and other Fascists) has remained almost completely silent on the war going on in Kiev.
And yes, it is a war, between the people of the Ukraine who want to join the EU and the rest of the Western world, and the dictatorial government who just want to hold on to their power as long as possible, no matter who it hurts. I had to go to UK news sites to find out what is really going on. Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin must have been taking notes from the Ukrainian President, because the Ukrainian gov't cut off all discussion about any changes involving joining the EU very abruptly, and when people started to peacefully protest, he outlawed ALL protesting and police began arresting/beating/silencing all of the peaceful protestors.
I found one Fox "News" article online about it, and it dances the line between painting the protestors as crazy rioters against their rightful and benevolent gov't, and then sympathizing with them because they're fighting those mean and nasty dictator wannabes. The whole article is pointless and does nothing to educate anyone about what is ACTUALLY going on.
So let me ask you this, Citizens: what happens when you have a right to peacefully protest government decisions, to make sure your voice is heard, and then that right is summarily abolished and you get tossed into prison (if you're lucky), or you get the shit beaten out of you by riot police for holding a sign (if you're unlucky)?
Well, you'd probably do what the angry populace of Kiev have done, and started fighting back against the jackbooted thugs who are trying to shut you up. It's very obvious to any rational person that President Yanukovych's promises to reform his cabinet fell flat. Yanukovych is very pro-Moscow, and will obviously do anything to stay in that bully Putin's good graces. The protests in Ukraine were peaceful right up until he stupidly outlawed protesting. When you take away the people's right to be heard... well, you know the outcome of THAT.
I doubt there would have been any full-scale battles if police hadn't started shooting people. Five dead by police snipers (so not just a random buster taking out his piece and randomly shooting someone), and you'll have not just panic, but rage. When your government orders police to start shooting people peacefully making themselves heard... yeah, you're going to have a fucking war.
This all should sound familiar to those of us who haven't had any of the Republican Kool-Aid. No wonder the Right doesn't want anyone here to know about it, they might get ideas, or realize that they've been duped this whole time, and that they do, in fact, have the power to change it. They've managed to discredit liberals in the blind eyes of their sheep with their control of the US media, but I can almost guarantee that if the GOP can end all federal assistance like Medicare and SNAP, it'll be their own voters who will protest, and when the shooting starts and those same teabillies start dying to their own dear Fascists' commands... you'll see things change right fucking quick.
I can only hope they'll realize that the people they've vilified and hated for trying to enlighten them to this shit were right all along, and smarten the fuck up. I don't WANT to see a violent uprising, but I can almost guarantee one if Republicans keep going the way they are. I don't want to see this place turn into another Ukraine.
That will be all.
And yes, it is a war, between the people of the Ukraine who want to join the EU and the rest of the Western world, and the dictatorial government who just want to hold on to their power as long as possible, no matter who it hurts. I had to go to UK news sites to find out what is really going on. Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin must have been taking notes from the Ukrainian President, because the Ukrainian gov't cut off all discussion about any changes involving joining the EU very abruptly, and when people started to peacefully protest, he outlawed ALL protesting and police began arresting/beating/silencing all of the peaceful protestors.
I found one Fox "News" article online about it, and it dances the line between painting the protestors as crazy rioters against their rightful and benevolent gov't, and then sympathizing with them because they're fighting those mean and nasty dictator wannabes. The whole article is pointless and does nothing to educate anyone about what is ACTUALLY going on.
So let me ask you this, Citizens: what happens when you have a right to peacefully protest government decisions, to make sure your voice is heard, and then that right is summarily abolished and you get tossed into prison (if you're lucky), or you get the shit beaten out of you by riot police for holding a sign (if you're unlucky)?
Well, you'd probably do what the angry populace of Kiev have done, and started fighting back against the jackbooted thugs who are trying to shut you up. It's very obvious to any rational person that President Yanukovych's promises to reform his cabinet fell flat. Yanukovych is very pro-Moscow, and will obviously do anything to stay in that bully Putin's good graces. The protests in Ukraine were peaceful right up until he stupidly outlawed protesting. When you take away the people's right to be heard... well, you know the outcome of THAT.
I doubt there would have been any full-scale battles if police hadn't started shooting people. Five dead by police snipers (so not just a random buster taking out his piece and randomly shooting someone), and you'll have not just panic, but rage. When your government orders police to start shooting people peacefully making themselves heard... yeah, you're going to have a fucking war.
This all should sound familiar to those of us who haven't had any of the Republican Kool-Aid. No wonder the Right doesn't want anyone here to know about it, they might get ideas, or realize that they've been duped this whole time, and that they do, in fact, have the power to change it. They've managed to discredit liberals in the blind eyes of their sheep with their control of the US media, but I can almost guarantee that if the GOP can end all federal assistance like Medicare and SNAP, it'll be their own voters who will protest, and when the shooting starts and those same teabillies start dying to their own dear Fascists' commands... you'll see things change right fucking quick.
I can only hope they'll realize that the people they've vilified and hated for trying to enlighten them to this shit were right all along, and smarten the fuck up. I don't WANT to see a violent uprising, but I can almost guarantee one if Republicans keep going the way they are. I don't want to see this place turn into another Ukraine.
That will be all.
Friday, December 6, 2013
On the importance of basic fact-checking:
So I got this in an email from a family member today. I get these things occasionally because a lot of my family are backwoods New Englanders, and while the majority of New England is liberal, you still get the rural Republicans making retard noises.
SAVE AMERICA
BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE ! !
There is absolutely a good response to this, and that response is: Nationalism is just as divisive and hate-inducing as any religion, and to claim that the United States is better than every other country in the world is not only absurd, it's evidence that one has not been paying attention to reality.
Also, I'm going to call complete bullshit on that last "quote" about how he intends to disarm America and all that other nonsense. All this rant is is some bigoted, racist retard who wants to fire up dumb people to revolt against a government that isn't oppressing them, by tricking them into believing it is. This is, literally, the stupidest thing I have read all year, and that takes some doing since Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and the rest of the Republican party are trying their hardest to be as dense and ignorant as possible.
Oh, I just did some quick 5 second research on the internetz and it looks like I was right that this quote is pure fantasy:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
So if you were sending me this to show how ludicrous and insane the Republican party and it's base have become, I kind of already knew, but thanks for more material for my page. If you actually thought that this was true... just please do some basic fact-checking before you send me these types of things :P
I do agree with the last bit. This country does need to be saved, but not from the President; it needs to be saved from people like Dale Lindsborg.
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There are no good responses to this…..
Yes, he told us in advance what he
planned to do. Few were listening.
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EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
NEEDS
TO READ THIS, SO KEEP
IT GOING ! !
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It's extremely painful for rational, thinking people to read, I know. I definitely did a /headdesk once or twice. This is not the first time they have sent me stuff like this, either (see this article for more).
The following is my response, verbatim:
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There is absolutely a good response to this, and that response is: Nationalism is just as divisive and hate-inducing as any religion, and to claim that the United States is better than every other country in the world is not only absurd, it's evidence that one has not been paying attention to reality.
Also, I'm going to call complete bullshit on that last "quote" about how he intends to disarm America and all that other nonsense. All this rant is is some bigoted, racist retard who wants to fire up dumb people to revolt against a government that isn't oppressing them, by tricking them into believing it is. This is, literally, the stupidest thing I have read all year, and that takes some doing since Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and the rest of the Republican party are trying their hardest to be as dense and ignorant as possible.
Oh, I just did some quick 5 second research on the internetz and it looks like I was right that this quote is pure fantasy:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
So if you were sending me this to show how ludicrous and insane the Republican party and it's base have become, I kind of already knew, but thanks for more material for my page. If you actually thought that this was true... just please do some basic fact-checking before you send me these types of things :P
I do agree with the last bit. This country does need to be saved, but not from the President; it needs to be saved from people like Dale Lindsborg.
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This is partially why liberals and progressives manage to get beat out these days by Republican Fascists: we see things like this and blow it off as some stupid chain email or ridiculous bullshit, not realizing that this is being spread by tens of thousands of mindfucked morons daily who believe every single word of it. We don't understand that people really are so stupid as to think this is actually true.
Fact-check everything. Demand that anyone who makes claims like this provide credible, sourced evidence. If they don't want to, or think they don't have to, or call you a liberal swine (yeah, been called that a LOT lately), then you can dismiss their claim completely. Do your own fact-checking and show them. If they blow you off and refuse to even look at it, they're a lost cause. You can't reason with the unreasonable, and the only way to stop them is to get out and vote.
We need to start organizing better, start understanding that passivity equals political loss, and that the crazies are way more active than we are and the only way to beat them is to, well, beat them at their own game, only instead of spreading shameless lies, we spread education and facts.
Get out there. Be proactive instead of reactive. Thinking your vote doesn't count = 2 votes for the Republicans. Don't be that person, you're not only hurting yourself, but every other progressive you happen to agree with, but can't be bothered to support. Your vote matters, make the most of it, each and every election.
We need you.
That will be all.
Get out there. Be proactive instead of reactive. Thinking your vote doesn't count = 2 votes for the Republicans. Don't be that person, you're not only hurting yourself, but every other progressive you happen to agree with, but can't be bothered to support. Your vote matters, make the most of it, each and every election.
We need you.
That will be all.
Sunday, December 1, 2013
Respect is not a right, especially if you're a dipshit
So I just got exploded upon by one of my friends here because I dared
to call a moron out for being an abject idiot on their page, because
"they've been friends for a really long time and you should respect
that".
Just because you're friends with someone for a long time does not entitle them to respect, or shield their ideas/comments from ridicule and disdain. Our culture sucks right now because we give complete fucktards like this a free pass to believe whatever they want, contrary to, and often in direct opposition to, proven facts and evidence. We tell them "it's ok, it's ok that you're stupid, please don't cry, we all still like you", in the vain hope that they'll eventually learn on their own (they won't), and then feel good about ourselves because we didn't make someone feel bad.
Fuck that shit. My "views" are based on facts and evidence, you know, those things that make up ACTUAL reality. If you are one of my friends, you had better be prepared to back up anything you say with peer-reviewed, scientific evidence, or there's going to be a calling out, and I can guarantee that if you are not someone who changes their views with new evidence, then you're going to have a bad time.
I've cut loose people I've known since I was SIX YEARS OLD because they grew up into complete fucking dipshits who give me a ration of shit for not accepting what they say "just cuz" and demanding evidence, or for not being nice to people who refuse to accept reality based on facts. Respect is earned, not just expected because I've known you forever.
If you're a fuckwit, I'm going to tell you so, and I'm going to tell you WHY you are with evidence that supports my position. If you want to just sit there in a puddle of your own tears because someone was a meanie to you, instead of THINKING about why someone doesn't accept your idea, then we're not going to be getting along.
My views change with new evidence. If someone came up to me and showed me conclusive, scientific, repeatable evidence that proved the existence of God, I'd be more than happy to accept that God exists. I still wouldn't worship him, because he's a tremendous DICK, but I'd acknowledge said existence. That's how this thing we know as reality works. It's the only way we can truly understand the Universe, and to deny that in favor of some random shit you heard from a conservative talking head, or an asinine fairy tale you read in a 2000 year old book written by Bronze Age goatfuckers, is completely anti-intellectual and incorrect.
People need to stop being such pussies when their claims get challenged, and educate themselves as to WHY they're being challenged instead of just crying about no one respecting you and being offensive. I learn at LEAST one new thing every day, I count it a failed day if I don't. I really wish more people would do the same, instead of just being comfortably dumb and waiting for their "reality" show to start with McDonald's shite in hand.
In closing, I'd just like to say that if you act like a crazy bitch or a stupid asshole to me because I dared to tell someone who is being stupid that they're stupid... then you can go die in a fire. I don't give a single fuck if you've been friends forever. That person is stupid and is obviously infecting you with their retardation, and it needs to be stopped.
The line is drawn. I will not suffer any idiocy beyond this line. You have been warned.
That will be all.
Just because you're friends with someone for a long time does not entitle them to respect, or shield their ideas/comments from ridicule and disdain. Our culture sucks right now because we give complete fucktards like this a free pass to believe whatever they want, contrary to, and often in direct opposition to, proven facts and evidence. We tell them "it's ok, it's ok that you're stupid, please don't cry, we all still like you", in the vain hope that they'll eventually learn on their own (they won't), and then feel good about ourselves because we didn't make someone feel bad.
Fuck that shit. My "views" are based on facts and evidence, you know, those things that make up ACTUAL reality. If you are one of my friends, you had better be prepared to back up anything you say with peer-reviewed, scientific evidence, or there's going to be a calling out, and I can guarantee that if you are not someone who changes their views with new evidence, then you're going to have a bad time.
I've cut loose people I've known since I was SIX YEARS OLD because they grew up into complete fucking dipshits who give me a ration of shit for not accepting what they say "just cuz" and demanding evidence, or for not being nice to people who refuse to accept reality based on facts. Respect is earned, not just expected because I've known you forever.
If you're a fuckwit, I'm going to tell you so, and I'm going to tell you WHY you are with evidence that supports my position. If you want to just sit there in a puddle of your own tears because someone was a meanie to you, instead of THINKING about why someone doesn't accept your idea, then we're not going to be getting along.
My views change with new evidence. If someone came up to me and showed me conclusive, scientific, repeatable evidence that proved the existence of God, I'd be more than happy to accept that God exists. I still wouldn't worship him, because he's a tremendous DICK, but I'd acknowledge said existence. That's how this thing we know as reality works. It's the only way we can truly understand the Universe, and to deny that in favor of some random shit you heard from a conservative talking head, or an asinine fairy tale you read in a 2000 year old book written by Bronze Age goatfuckers, is completely anti-intellectual and incorrect.
People need to stop being such pussies when their claims get challenged, and educate themselves as to WHY they're being challenged instead of just crying about no one respecting you and being offensive. I learn at LEAST one new thing every day, I count it a failed day if I don't. I really wish more people would do the same, instead of just being comfortably dumb and waiting for their "reality" show to start with McDonald's shite in hand.
In closing, I'd just like to say that if you act like a crazy bitch or a stupid asshole to me because I dared to tell someone who is being stupid that they're stupid... then you can go die in a fire. I don't give a single fuck if you've been friends forever. That person is stupid and is obviously infecting you with their retardation, and it needs to be stopped.
The line is drawn. I will not suffer any idiocy beyond this line. You have been warned.
That will be all.
The Apathy Generation seriously pisses me right the fuck off
So I'm cruising the intarwebz, it's my day off, just kind of chillin'
to see what's new in the world, and I see one of my acquaintances has
commented on a post regarding the military. Specifically, the post was
in regards to how soldiers nowadays are dicks because they think that
being in the military gains them automatic respect because they're
"defending our freedoms". I wrote about this asshattery in a previous
article, but needless to say, the last war that our freedoms needed
defending in was waaaay before most of these cunts were a gleam in their
dad's ballsack.
So this acquaintance of mine responds to the whole discussion with a "Meh, IDGAF, whatever." IDGAF stands for 'I don't give a fuck', for those wondering. So I saw that and was like, why wouldn't you give a fuck if soldiers are being bullies to citizens because they think they should be worshiped? That shouldn't stand!
So I asked her about it. She repeated her IDGAF statement and didn't respond further. I said something about how that lack of caring is why this country is in the trouble it's in, and she responds with "Well I'm just a girl, I don't matter in this big world, so why try?"
I'm not kidding, this is what was stated. I didn't even know how to respond to that. Granted, she's 20 and I'm 33, so I've been around and have been able to see what is ACTUALLY going on in the real world, while she's been busying herself with photoshoots and hair/clothes (yes, this is true, not just a generalization). She's also desperately looking for a job, after having quit the one she just got because she can't get a ride or make the effort to use public transport, which is made more difficult by her having a child.
It's almost like I'm talking with the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the current generation. I want to smack these people and be like, "Oh, you don't give a fuck? You think you don't matter? That's exactly what the rich assholes who own the Republican party are counting on, because they have their hordes of mindfucked inbred Christians to vote the GOP into power year after year, and if you don't care enough to try to stop them, then you don't get to bitch about not having enough money or not being able to find a job."
Seriously, if all you care about is doing photoshoots, playing dressup with your baby like it's the newest toy, and generally not making an effort to be a normal and useful human being, then you don't get to complain when things go to shit and you don't have any rights under the Republican 4th Reich.
EVERY VOTE FUCKING MATTERS, PEOPLE. Every. Single. One. There are more liberals than conservatives in this country, and yet we've been at the GOP's mercy for the last 5 years thanks to things like gerrymandering and voter "fraud" laws, but mostly because of apathy. Not enough people give enough of a shit to get off their asses and vote, and yet they sit around and whine about how there aren't any jobs, and they can't afford to do things with their shit wages, etc. etc.
If you're ok with being an empty-headed piece of eye candy, then you'd better hope that you find a sugar daddy who is ok with busting his ass to pay for your clothes and shit, especially since you won't participate in our citizen-participatory government and make it easier for him by keeping corporations from making us into a wage-slave plutocracy. And I'd better not hear any complaints out of you when shit gets bad, because if you don't do anything to make things better, then you deserve EVERYTHING you get.
You have a way to make your voice heard, and you think that because you're just one person, you don't matter? Shit, if everyone thought that way, then our government wouldn't function, because no one would get elected. EVERYONE MATTERS. To put it in more cosmic terms: Out of a billion billion stars in the vastness of the Universe... you exist. That's a hell of an achievement. Now fucking act like it.
This is part of the reason why I DON'T want to have kids, because if I had one who acted like this I'd probably fucking strangle them, Homer Simpson style.
That will be all.
So this acquaintance of mine responds to the whole discussion with a "Meh, IDGAF, whatever." IDGAF stands for 'I don't give a fuck', for those wondering. So I saw that and was like, why wouldn't you give a fuck if soldiers are being bullies to citizens because they think they should be worshiped? That shouldn't stand!
So I asked her about it. She repeated her IDGAF statement and didn't respond further. I said something about how that lack of caring is why this country is in the trouble it's in, and she responds with "Well I'm just a girl, I don't matter in this big world, so why try?"
I'm not kidding, this is what was stated. I didn't even know how to respond to that. Granted, she's 20 and I'm 33, so I've been around and have been able to see what is ACTUALLY going on in the real world, while she's been busying herself with photoshoots and hair/clothes (yes, this is true, not just a generalization). She's also desperately looking for a job, after having quit the one she just got because she can't get a ride or make the effort to use public transport, which is made more difficult by her having a child.
It's almost like I'm talking with the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the current generation. I want to smack these people and be like, "Oh, you don't give a fuck? You think you don't matter? That's exactly what the rich assholes who own the Republican party are counting on, because they have their hordes of mindfucked inbred Christians to vote the GOP into power year after year, and if you don't care enough to try to stop them, then you don't get to bitch about not having enough money or not being able to find a job."
Seriously, if all you care about is doing photoshoots, playing dressup with your baby like it's the newest toy, and generally not making an effort to be a normal and useful human being, then you don't get to complain when things go to shit and you don't have any rights under the Republican 4th Reich.
EVERY VOTE FUCKING MATTERS, PEOPLE. Every. Single. One. There are more liberals than conservatives in this country, and yet we've been at the GOP's mercy for the last 5 years thanks to things like gerrymandering and voter "fraud" laws, but mostly because of apathy. Not enough people give enough of a shit to get off their asses and vote, and yet they sit around and whine about how there aren't any jobs, and they can't afford to do things with their shit wages, etc. etc.
If you're ok with being an empty-headed piece of eye candy, then you'd better hope that you find a sugar daddy who is ok with busting his ass to pay for your clothes and shit, especially since you won't participate in our citizen-participatory government and make it easier for him by keeping corporations from making us into a wage-slave plutocracy. And I'd better not hear any complaints out of you when shit gets bad, because if you don't do anything to make things better, then you deserve EVERYTHING you get.
You have a way to make your voice heard, and you think that because you're just one person, you don't matter? Shit, if everyone thought that way, then our government wouldn't function, because no one would get elected. EVERYONE MATTERS. To put it in more cosmic terms: Out of a billion billion stars in the vastness of the Universe... you exist. That's a hell of an achievement. Now fucking act like it.
This is part of the reason why I DON'T want to have kids, because if I had one who acted like this I'd probably fucking strangle them, Homer Simpson style.
That will be all.
Republican rhetoric: Not even once
So I wake up on the first day of my vacation to see one of my friends
repost a status on Facebook by someone who seems to be under the
impression that people working on minimum wage and can't afford to live
are lazy bums who should blame themselves for not being better educated
and hard working.
Words cannot describe how offensive this post is to so many Americans who are struggling to afford food and shelter in this, the supposedly greatest country in the world. The fact that he just parrots Republican lies and rhetoric without even skipping a beat shows how effective the GOP propaganda machine works. Here is the post in it's entirety, uncut.
"To all those picketing today outside their fastfood workplaces demanding at least $15 an hour: You should be picketing outside the office of your high school guidance counselor who told you the fastfood service industry was a GOOD career choice, not just an entry-level job. You should be picketing outside of the homes of family members who advised you NOT to work hard for decent grades, learn a skilled trade, or take on college student loans. Picket outside the home of friends who told you it was COOL to skip class, not study, have a child, or drop out of school. Protest outside the offices of your elected politicians who continue to tell you that choices you make in life should have NO bearing on how much you are entitled to. Protest outside the homes of those selfish consumers who don't WANT to pay $18 for a double cheeseburger. Stick it to the man, the clown, the king, the colonel, or whomever is keeping you down. Just don't blame yourselves. It's not YOUR fault." - Michael White
So according to Mr. White, all of these people in the USA who have a minimum wage job, sometimes two, and still can't afford to eat without SNAP benefits, are all to blame for their own situation because they did bad in school or because they "listened to politicians that tell you you're entitled to free money" (Note: no politicians endorse this, it's a complete fabrication). He then goes on to say if you have a child, it's your fault for being poor, which is so incredibly offensive to women that I'll be amazed if this guy has a wife or girlfriend, and if he does, she must enjoy being constantly denigrated by a misogynist asshole, that's the only reason I can think of that anyone would stay with a dick like that.
Seriously, you think that if someone has a kid they deserve to be poor? Are you fucking insane, or just retarded? You think that people are rising up to protest higher hamburger prices? Please know that you are really fucking stupid if you think that that's happening. Math proves that if the minimum wage is raised to a living wage, prices will go up maybe 1-2%. That's pennies on the dollar. Saying a cheeseburger will be $18 is just another Republican lie meant to scare people into thinking that if we pay people enough to live, then we'll all be poor, and that's not how the system works. If all of these things are so catastrophic, then why is it that other developed countries, like Australia and Japan, pay a high minimum wage, and have low unemployment, similar costs for goods/services, and happy people who can afford to live? It's like you live in your own little bubble of reality where facts and evidence can be shrugged off in favor of misinformation and outright bullshit.
Let me tell you a little story. A story about myself. I went to college, for Computer Science, at Vermont Technical College. I went for 3 years, for a 2 year program, because I failed calculus and C++, two things I tried very hard at but could not wrap my head around. I decided that programming was not what I wanted to do after all, and since the cost of my college loans were so high, I decided to get a job to pay them off. I'm a responsible, hard-working 33 year old now, I make more than the minimum wage at a full time job, and I can barely afford to pay all my living expenses with a little bit to spare each month. I have reduced my living expenses to the tune of about $1000 a month, so if I have, say, an emergency tire blowout on the road, or I get sick enough to have to go to the hospital, my savings will be completely wiped out and then some.
So it's my fault that I decided I wasn't happy in my chosen field of study and that the crippling cost of college education kept me from going back to get a different degree? Let me tell you something, that is the most arrogant and dickish thing to assume about someone who "dropped out" of school. Just because someone didn't finish doesn't mean it's because they're lazy or stupid, a lot of times it's because we discover things about ourselves and decide to go in a different direction. In other nations, college education is free so that people can decide what they want to do with themselves without getting saddled with a lifelong debt and can make decisions without being seen as a stupid bum for not finishing something they dislike.
So Michael White: you sir, are a tremendous douche, and I hope you never have to know what it's like to be treated like shit just because you don't have a degree and are working just as hard but not being paid enough by greedy corporations because their $14 million dollar raises are more important than you being able to eat this week. If you had educated yourself about these things that I am now relating to you, instead of just thinking your Republican representative, who has never had to deal with living like this EVER, is right about all those "lazy takers", and then have the nerve to condescendingly blame them for being hardworking people who DARE to want a livable wage... yeah, you're a complete fucking asshole.
If you said those things to me, about me, to my face, you'd better believe I would beat wholesale ass. You don't get to be an arrogant prick to people fighting corruption and demanding justice, not when you've sold yourself as a Republican mouthpiece for the low price of free. You're just as much a puppet as they are, and you're on the wrong side of history. I'd encourage you to seek mental help, but I know you'll just laugh me off as a commie fascist socialist or some other idiocy and continue repeating the bullshit that the GOP tells you to, because they've got their hand so far up your ass they can work you like a ventriloquist's doll.
Enjoy being a colossal dick, because someday someone like me is going to call you out on your bullshit, and I don't think you'll like the consequences.
EDIT: He responded to my initial callout of his bullshit with this little gem:"Two things Eban mothfuck or whatever you name is. One, I am NOT a republican. Two, you're late for your shift on the Mcfryer"
So eloquently put. I'm sure you're qualified to comment on the economic impact of wealth inequality when you can't even spell someone's name properly even if it's right in front of you, and your hateful disdain of anyone working a service job makes you emininently qualified to be an impartial judge of character.
I'm being facetious of course. You may want to look that up, I know that you Republicans have a hard time with big words. And yes, if you believe everything you said previously, you ARE, in fact, a GOP talking head. NO liberal would have you if you brought these points to our table. Go fuck yourself.
That will be all.
Words cannot describe how offensive this post is to so many Americans who are struggling to afford food and shelter in this, the supposedly greatest country in the world. The fact that he just parrots Republican lies and rhetoric without even skipping a beat shows how effective the GOP propaganda machine works. Here is the post in it's entirety, uncut.
"To all those picketing today outside their fastfood workplaces demanding at least $15 an hour: You should be picketing outside the office of your high school guidance counselor who told you the fastfood service industry was a GOOD career choice, not just an entry-level job. You should be picketing outside of the homes of family members who advised you NOT to work hard for decent grades, learn a skilled trade, or take on college student loans. Picket outside the home of friends who told you it was COOL to skip class, not study, have a child, or drop out of school. Protest outside the offices of your elected politicians who continue to tell you that choices you make in life should have NO bearing on how much you are entitled to. Protest outside the homes of those selfish consumers who don't WANT to pay $18 for a double cheeseburger. Stick it to the man, the clown, the king, the colonel, or whomever is keeping you down. Just don't blame yourselves. It's not YOUR fault." - Michael White
So according to Mr. White, all of these people in the USA who have a minimum wage job, sometimes two, and still can't afford to eat without SNAP benefits, are all to blame for their own situation because they did bad in school or because they "listened to politicians that tell you you're entitled to free money" (Note: no politicians endorse this, it's a complete fabrication). He then goes on to say if you have a child, it's your fault for being poor, which is so incredibly offensive to women that I'll be amazed if this guy has a wife or girlfriend, and if he does, she must enjoy being constantly denigrated by a misogynist asshole, that's the only reason I can think of that anyone would stay with a dick like that.
Seriously, you think that if someone has a kid they deserve to be poor? Are you fucking insane, or just retarded? You think that people are rising up to protest higher hamburger prices? Please know that you are really fucking stupid if you think that that's happening. Math proves that if the minimum wage is raised to a living wage, prices will go up maybe 1-2%. That's pennies on the dollar. Saying a cheeseburger will be $18 is just another Republican lie meant to scare people into thinking that if we pay people enough to live, then we'll all be poor, and that's not how the system works. If all of these things are so catastrophic, then why is it that other developed countries, like Australia and Japan, pay a high minimum wage, and have low unemployment, similar costs for goods/services, and happy people who can afford to live? It's like you live in your own little bubble of reality where facts and evidence can be shrugged off in favor of misinformation and outright bullshit.
Let me tell you a little story. A story about myself. I went to college, for Computer Science, at Vermont Technical College. I went for 3 years, for a 2 year program, because I failed calculus and C++, two things I tried very hard at but could not wrap my head around. I decided that programming was not what I wanted to do after all, and since the cost of my college loans were so high, I decided to get a job to pay them off. I'm a responsible, hard-working 33 year old now, I make more than the minimum wage at a full time job, and I can barely afford to pay all my living expenses with a little bit to spare each month. I have reduced my living expenses to the tune of about $1000 a month, so if I have, say, an emergency tire blowout on the road, or I get sick enough to have to go to the hospital, my savings will be completely wiped out and then some.
So it's my fault that I decided I wasn't happy in my chosen field of study and that the crippling cost of college education kept me from going back to get a different degree? Let me tell you something, that is the most arrogant and dickish thing to assume about someone who "dropped out" of school. Just because someone didn't finish doesn't mean it's because they're lazy or stupid, a lot of times it's because we discover things about ourselves and decide to go in a different direction. In other nations, college education is free so that people can decide what they want to do with themselves without getting saddled with a lifelong debt and can make decisions without being seen as a stupid bum for not finishing something they dislike.
So Michael White: you sir, are a tremendous douche, and I hope you never have to know what it's like to be treated like shit just because you don't have a degree and are working just as hard but not being paid enough by greedy corporations because their $14 million dollar raises are more important than you being able to eat this week. If you had educated yourself about these things that I am now relating to you, instead of just thinking your Republican representative, who has never had to deal with living like this EVER, is right about all those "lazy takers", and then have the nerve to condescendingly blame them for being hardworking people who DARE to want a livable wage... yeah, you're a complete fucking asshole.
If you said those things to me, about me, to my face, you'd better believe I would beat wholesale ass. You don't get to be an arrogant prick to people fighting corruption and demanding justice, not when you've sold yourself as a Republican mouthpiece for the low price of free. You're just as much a puppet as they are, and you're on the wrong side of history. I'd encourage you to seek mental help, but I know you'll just laugh me off as a commie fascist socialist or some other idiocy and continue repeating the bullshit that the GOP tells you to, because they've got their hand so far up your ass they can work you like a ventriloquist's doll.
Enjoy being a colossal dick, because someday someone like me is going to call you out on your bullshit, and I don't think you'll like the consequences.
EDIT: He responded to my initial callout of his bullshit with this little gem:"Two things Eban mothfuck or whatever you name is. One, I am NOT a republican. Two, you're late for your shift on the Mcfryer"
So eloquently put. I'm sure you're qualified to comment on the economic impact of wealth inequality when you can't even spell someone's name properly even if it's right in front of you, and your hateful disdain of anyone working a service job makes you emininently qualified to be an impartial judge of character.
I'm being facetious of course. You may want to look that up, I know that you Republicans have a hard time with big words. And yes, if you believe everything you said previously, you ARE, in fact, a GOP talking head. NO liberal would have you if you brought these points to our table. Go fuck yourself.
That will be all.
I don't need Anger Management, I need stupid assholes to stop pissing me the fuck off
So to give you a taste of the kind of retardation I, and many other
call center agents, have to put up with daily, I have some great tales
for you. Some will make you laugh, some will enrage you, but I hope all
will make you fucking think the next time you pick up a phone to call
somewhere, because you have the power to either make someone's day less
shitty, or make them hate life.
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So
I work for a major call center selling items for the home and such, and
sometimes, you just get so monumentally sick of fielding stupid
questions all day that your demeanor slips. Last night, just before I
was ready to go home, I got a call from a lady who asked me straight
away: "I need help getting rid of an item I purchased."
I sat there for a second, pondering whether I should just transfer her to Returns or keep talking to her. I finally responded with, "I would advise throwing it in the trash." She asked me how to get rid of it, that's how I would do it :P
She got a little pissed after that and says "Why would I do that? I want my money back! Why would you tell me to throw it away?!". I'm trying hard not to laugh now, so I respond with "Ok, so you're looking to return the item, that I can do for you, let me connect you to Returns."
I think she realized at that point what she had initially said and kind of meekly accepted the solution with a sullen "Ok." This is an example of why you should think before you speak. Most Americans keep screaming about how English should be the national language, and if you don't speak it you should GTFO. Irony abounds, as most of these people can barely speak it themselves.
The next tale I have is a doozy. Apparently this guy is a repeat offender, as several people around me had seen his name pop up before. It was the first time today he had called though.
So let me give you some initial information, and this was totally not my fault. This dude who called in sounded exactly like an ancient Southern woman. He had a really high voice, could barely speak coherently, and was very old, so I assumed it was a woman I was speaking to. I didn't call him Ma'am or Miss or anything, I didn't even address him at all.
So I say my greeting, and first words I hear are an angry "GET ME YOUR SUPERVISOR NOW." We get a lot of misdirected calls here in the Sales department, so I say "I can certainly do that, but let me see if I can help you first, I am an expert." in an attempt to de-escalate. I get "GET ME YOUR SUPERVISOR NOW" again, so I think to myself 'ok, we have a genius here.' and try again to de-escalate. "I'm just trying to determine what sort of help you need, because a supervisor here may not be able to assist you, this is the Sales dept.".
At this point he just starts screaming the same line as above over and over, like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum, so I'm like fuck it, I'll get one, I don't get paid enough for this shit. I go find one, tell him what's going on, I assume it's going to be something easy like they're needing to a return something and they've just gotten shuffled around (which is what happens when you faceroll the phone and don't answer questions so you can get to the right place, idiots).
What happens next is what I would classify as an endurance test of patience. I can literally hear this smacktard screaming at my manager from about 5 feet away, apparently because he assumed, as I did, that this was a woman, and called him Ma'am, which enraged the caller to a frothing madness. He then refused to answer simple questions like a petty child, and instead made demands that he was repeatedly told were things we were unable to do.
He needed help putting a spring on something, apparently. Instead of using Google like the rest of the civilized world, he calls the wrong department, and then pitches a baby tantrum when he doesn't hear what he wants to hear. We can't give technical advice over the phone, because we'd then be liable for any injury the dumbass suffers whilst trying to do the repair. We send technicians out for this reason, so THEY can do it. He of course, didn't want to pay for a service call, so he just keeps repeating over and over that he wants to talk to someone for help. Who was it that said insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result? :P
So finally he starts screaming to talk to my manager's manager, which in that case doesn't happen, we give them the corporate address. This was also not a good enough answer for him, so he proceeds to spend the next 10 minutes asking to talk to a higher manager and getting THE EXACT SAME RESPONSE EVERY TIME. He's really working himself into a frenzy too, I'm secretly hoping he has an embolism in his brain or a heart attack while I'm listening.
So after about 20 minutes, my manager finally has had enough and explains that he's already told him what we can and can't do, and if you don't like that answer, that's unfortunate, and to have a nice day, and hangs up. I thank him for being way more patient than anyone else would have, including me, and continue my day.
Not 5 minutes later, a co-worker of mine gets him on the phone. Same dude. Calls the same WRONG department, to bitch about the SAME THING. So she gets the same manager he talked to (which made me literally LOL), and he proceeds to tell the guy the SAME THING HE JUST WENT OVER FOR TWENTY MINUTES PREVIOUSLY. The twist is, now this guy is demanding that I get fired for not getting him the right manager who would give him the answers he wants. He gets told that no one is getting fired, no we can't give you technical advice over the phone, and no you can't talk to a higher manager, you have to write corporate.
Everyone around this desk can hear this dude screaming bloody murder about how he's going to sue us and burn down our stores and all sorts of other psychotic shit, all because he couldn't take two seconds to shut the fuck up, listen to the explanation of how to get assistance, and then accept that fucking answer.
So he vows to keep calling us if he doesn't get what he wants, and sure enough, after that 2nd call ended, he called back 5 minutes later and got another of my co-workers. At that point the manager had had enough and told him flat out if all you're going to do is call to harass our agents and threaten to destroy our stores, then legal action will be taken, because we have your name and address on file.
It finally took the threat of legal action to get him to shut the fuck up. I'm sure he was still stewing about it for days afterwards, and my only regret is that he didn't have a coronary right there, because we need less retarded Southern assholes. A lot less.
I
could go on and on and on, as I've worked for several call centers over
the last 12 years. I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: if you
act like an idiot, I'm going to treat you like one, and if you get
pissed off about it, I'm going to do everything in my power to make you
so much more angry in the hopes that you'll have a seizure and fucking
die. Sometimes that means being sarcastic, sometimes that means being
"mean", and sometimes that means being so calm, nice, and reasonable
that it causes you to throw a frothing rage tantrum.
I hate the people who think that because I'm angry or mean, that I'm a bad person. If you pay attention to the world, the news, our society, and you're NOT angry, then there's something seriously wrong with your brain. Going through life happy and blissful all the time in every situation means you're either sheltered or ignorant, neither of which is a laudable trait. If you're not angry about something worthwhile, then you're doing it wrong.
The sad fact is, our society encourages this behavior. We don't shame people publicly for being stupid (and yes, there's a difference between genuinely not knowing something, and being willfully stupid. If you don't learn things, and refuse to gain knowledge, you deserve to be labeled as a mental incompetent). Being "blissfully ignorant" is not a virtue. We've made it into one in this country though, with the participation trophy mentality. We pat people on the head and say "It's ok, it's ok that you're stupid. We don't want you to feel bad about it so we'll bend over backwards to do everything for you that you can't do or figure out yourself because you're dumb. Don't cry, we'll take care of it."
That's what I hate the most. I'm all for helping people out who need help, thanks to the engineered destruction of the working class by the rich, but if you are someone who refuses to learn things in favor of being a fat, lazy piece of shite that just wants their thinking done for them, you deserve to be ridiculed and antagonized at the very LEAST. My good friend on FB, Professor Hollingsworth, just shared a story about some retard who asked at the vending machine, if it took $10 bills. The conversation:
Holly: "Gee, I don't know. Maybe the huge picture of bills listed from $1 to $20 would help."
Her: "You don't have to be mean."
Holly:
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I sat there for a second, pondering whether I should just transfer her to Returns or keep talking to her. I finally responded with, "I would advise throwing it in the trash." She asked me how to get rid of it, that's how I would do it :P
She got a little pissed after that and says "Why would I do that? I want my money back! Why would you tell me to throw it away?!". I'm trying hard not to laugh now, so I respond with "Ok, so you're looking to return the item, that I can do for you, let me connect you to Returns."
I think she realized at that point what she had initially said and kind of meekly accepted the solution with a sullen "Ok." This is an example of why you should think before you speak. Most Americans keep screaming about how English should be the national language, and if you don't speak it you should GTFO. Irony abounds, as most of these people can barely speak it themselves.
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The next tale I have is a doozy. Apparently this guy is a repeat offender, as several people around me had seen his name pop up before. It was the first time today he had called though.
So let me give you some initial information, and this was totally not my fault. This dude who called in sounded exactly like an ancient Southern woman. He had a really high voice, could barely speak coherently, and was very old, so I assumed it was a woman I was speaking to. I didn't call him Ma'am or Miss or anything, I didn't even address him at all.
So I say my greeting, and first words I hear are an angry "GET ME YOUR SUPERVISOR NOW." We get a lot of misdirected calls here in the Sales department, so I say "I can certainly do that, but let me see if I can help you first, I am an expert." in an attempt to de-escalate. I get "GET ME YOUR SUPERVISOR NOW" again, so I think to myself 'ok, we have a genius here.' and try again to de-escalate. "I'm just trying to determine what sort of help you need, because a supervisor here may not be able to assist you, this is the Sales dept.".
At this point he just starts screaming the same line as above over and over, like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum, so I'm like fuck it, I'll get one, I don't get paid enough for this shit. I go find one, tell him what's going on, I assume it's going to be something easy like they're needing to a return something and they've just gotten shuffled around (which is what happens when you faceroll the phone and don't answer questions so you can get to the right place, idiots).
What happens next is what I would classify as an endurance test of patience. I can literally hear this smacktard screaming at my manager from about 5 feet away, apparently because he assumed, as I did, that this was a woman, and called him Ma'am, which enraged the caller to a frothing madness. He then refused to answer simple questions like a petty child, and instead made demands that he was repeatedly told were things we were unable to do.
He needed help putting a spring on something, apparently. Instead of using Google like the rest of the civilized world, he calls the wrong department, and then pitches a baby tantrum when he doesn't hear what he wants to hear. We can't give technical advice over the phone, because we'd then be liable for any injury the dumbass suffers whilst trying to do the repair. We send technicians out for this reason, so THEY can do it. He of course, didn't want to pay for a service call, so he just keeps repeating over and over that he wants to talk to someone for help. Who was it that said insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result? :P
So finally he starts screaming to talk to my manager's manager, which in that case doesn't happen, we give them the corporate address. This was also not a good enough answer for him, so he proceeds to spend the next 10 minutes asking to talk to a higher manager and getting THE EXACT SAME RESPONSE EVERY TIME. He's really working himself into a frenzy too, I'm secretly hoping he has an embolism in his brain or a heart attack while I'm listening.
So after about 20 minutes, my manager finally has had enough and explains that he's already told him what we can and can't do, and if you don't like that answer, that's unfortunate, and to have a nice day, and hangs up. I thank him for being way more patient than anyone else would have, including me, and continue my day.
Not 5 minutes later, a co-worker of mine gets him on the phone. Same dude. Calls the same WRONG department, to bitch about the SAME THING. So she gets the same manager he talked to (which made me literally LOL), and he proceeds to tell the guy the SAME THING HE JUST WENT OVER FOR TWENTY MINUTES PREVIOUSLY. The twist is, now this guy is demanding that I get fired for not getting him the right manager who would give him the answers he wants. He gets told that no one is getting fired, no we can't give you technical advice over the phone, and no you can't talk to a higher manager, you have to write corporate.
Everyone around this desk can hear this dude screaming bloody murder about how he's going to sue us and burn down our stores and all sorts of other psychotic shit, all because he couldn't take two seconds to shut the fuck up, listen to the explanation of how to get assistance, and then accept that fucking answer.
So he vows to keep calling us if he doesn't get what he wants, and sure enough, after that 2nd call ended, he called back 5 minutes later and got another of my co-workers. At that point the manager had had enough and told him flat out if all you're going to do is call to harass our agents and threaten to destroy our stores, then legal action will be taken, because we have your name and address on file.
It finally took the threat of legal action to get him to shut the fuck up. I'm sure he was still stewing about it for days afterwards, and my only regret is that he didn't have a coronary right there, because we need less retarded Southern assholes. A lot less.
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I hate the people who think that because I'm angry or mean, that I'm a bad person. If you pay attention to the world, the news, our society, and you're NOT angry, then there's something seriously wrong with your brain. Going through life happy and blissful all the time in every situation means you're either sheltered or ignorant, neither of which is a laudable trait. If you're not angry about something worthwhile, then you're doing it wrong.
The sad fact is, our society encourages this behavior. We don't shame people publicly for being stupid (and yes, there's a difference between genuinely not knowing something, and being willfully stupid. If you don't learn things, and refuse to gain knowledge, you deserve to be labeled as a mental incompetent). Being "blissfully ignorant" is not a virtue. We've made it into one in this country though, with the participation trophy mentality. We pat people on the head and say "It's ok, it's ok that you're stupid. We don't want you to feel bad about it so we'll bend over backwards to do everything for you that you can't do or figure out yourself because you're dumb. Don't cry, we'll take care of it."
That's what I hate the most. I'm all for helping people out who need help, thanks to the engineered destruction of the working class by the rich, but if you are someone who refuses to learn things in favor of being a fat, lazy piece of shite that just wants their thinking done for them, you deserve to be ridiculed and antagonized at the very LEAST. My good friend on FB, Professor Hollingsworth, just shared a story about some retard who asked at the vending machine, if it took $10 bills. The conversation:
Holly: "Gee, I don't know. Maybe the huge picture of bills listed from $1 to $20 would help."
Her: "You don't have to be mean."
Holly:
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